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The Vinecast: The Newsvine Podcast - August 6, 2008

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Today winsomecowboy and I are joined by Mykola Bilokonsky, kymlee, Ryan Stolte-Sawa, and even Walt D and rwarner for a bit, by phone.

You can find the feed for the podcast over here, or if you prefer, you can listen to the audio directly in an embedded player on thevinecast.com. There is even a subscribe by email option for those that don't use a podcatcher or rss feed reader but want to be kept up to date. And for you itunes users, of course you can use that too.

Just some of the things discussed in the 62 minutes of Vinecasty goodness were...

  • Vinecast mentioned as the podcast of the week on Net@Night
  • New feature: Question boards.
  • winsomecowboy talks to a 5 year old.
  • We go meta....check out this and this and this and this for the background.
  • Trolls, fight or ignore?
  • Are people too emotional invested in the Newsvine "community"? Is there a "community" at all?
  • Are the Newsvine staff our friends, our boss, or what? Can we (and should we) have it both ways?
  • Ryan Stolte-Sawa shows up, and apparently has a potty mouth!
  • Can (and should) the asshats on Newsvine be truely ignored?
  • I call Walt D and Robin to get them in on the fun.
  • Lock your doors, winsomecowboy is going to Canada!
  • Robin asks a very personal question, and winsomecowboy explains how his disolving underwear work
  • Ryan seems to think an election is going on......or an erection...not really sure.
  • We DON'T talk to Viki about the great news that Newsviners, including her, are going to the Democratic and Republican national conventions...and despite what we may or may not have said...we all love Viki anyway :P
  • Archived comments are no more?
  • Look forward to insanely obscure tshirts at thevinecast.com soon!
  • We talk about a couple of strange news stories, because we probably should mention the news at some point.
  • winsomecowboy gardens for the Reverend Moon
  • Look for "crowns of thorns" soon at thevinecast.com...because we're all about spreading a healthy dose of human suffering....yeah.
  • He also works at Home Depot...and he's heading to China...a man of many talents.

If you have any suggestions, questions, etc......send them right on over to me at brad@thevinecast.com, and if you have a particular Viner you'd like to hear on the Vinecast (or you'd like to be on the panel yourself), let us know and we'll do our best to make it happen...especially now that I can easily call people on a real phone and take calls...it's easier than ever to be part of the Vinecast!

Oh, and check out this interview I did with Scott Butki about the Vinecast. Fun times!

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Reply#1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 1:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":2382692,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Can't wait to listen to this tonite.

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  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2382454,"authorDomain":"warners"}

I still think everyone on vinecast should be pantless or at least pretend to pantsless. There should be a booming voice at the beginning before introductions saying"Introducing Our Pantsless Panelists". This is my vision. I just can't shake it.

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  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT
{"commentId":2382497,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

When you come on for a full episode, we can go pantless I'm sure. :P

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  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2382693,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

Note to self: if you do this again, turn down your microphone a bit because you sound like a crazy person.

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  • 8 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
{"commentId":2382713,"authorDomain":"warners"}

You didn't sound like a crazy person.
*whispers* turn your speakers down when listening ;)

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  • 8 votes
#3.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383194,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

You don't sound any crazier than the rest of us. Take that however ya like :P

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  • 5 votes
#3.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
{"commentId":2386217,"authorDomain":"kymlee"}

You don't sound crazy. You sounded very reasonable, just loud. :)

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  • 7 votes
#3.3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
{"commentId":2386287,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

Nah. Its the prevailing conditions Myk.

I can't blame people for being so upset, that would disqualify me from discussion.

Hey Brad, how 'bout Beijing and ah, the Emperor's naked bottom.

You are going to comment/shadow NV's coverage of DNC, RNC and Don Quixote, er, Ron Paul's. ahem, yeah, whatever it is.

I blame Obama...

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  • 1 vote
#3.4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
{"commentId":2390246,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

You are going to comment/shadow NV's coverage of DNC, RNC and Don Quixote, er, Ron Paul's. ahem, yeah, whatever it is.

Of course. Exactly how we cover it will depend on who wants to (and remembers to) call in with reports and stuff...but I'm sure we'll be talking about it regardless :)

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  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 11:42 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2382856,"authorDomain":"mike"}

Great job everyone, and congrats on winning the Podcast of the Week. We just listened to the whole thing in the office.

By the way, with regard to the "capping of comments" thing, I just talked to Lance and he was unaware that this bug hadn't been squashed yet. Is it still a problem? Shouldn't be, and certainly isn't intentional of course.

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  • 10 votes
Reply#4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:39 PM EDT
{"commentId":2382912,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Oh noes.....THEY are listening......

Er....I mean...hey Mike, thanks for tuning in. If you, or anyone at "the office" ever wants on the panel, just let me know. I'm sure people would be eager to listen. Or if you have any fun future announcements we can hint at, that's always fun :)

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  • 11 votes
#4.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383008,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

I'm actually kind of impressed, apparently if you just get on a recording with some of your friends and talk about stuff you're interested in then people notice?

At any rate, good work, Brad. :)

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  • 9 votes
#4.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383075,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

I'm actually kind of impressed, apparently if you just get on a recording with some of your friends and talk about stuff you're interested in then people notice?

It would seem so. We should be topping 1000 downloads of the Vinecast (not including any from the first 4 that were listened to right from newsvine) by sometime tonight, and the last one topped 200 downloads in half the time of the previous one. Not bad for 5 weeks into a podcast really.

Now we just have to find time to get some organization and structure in there lol...still pretty hap-hazard at times.

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  • 8 votes
#4.3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383096,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

honestly I just have a hard time understanding why anyone would listen to an hour of meta-drama discussion from the lunatic fringe of a news site community...but, hey, whatever. :)

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  • 7 votes
#4.4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383184,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

I don't understand why people want to TALK for an hour about meta-drama from the lunatic fringe of news site community...but people keep on asking to join the fun :P

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  • 6 votes
#4.5 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383327,"authorDomain":"darkside"}

What is "Capping of Comments"?

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  • 3 votes
#4.6 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383421,"authorDomain":"warners"}

I think he means the archiving that Winsome (also newly known as winnie in some circles) was talking about.

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  • 6 votes
#4.7 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383425,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

the lack of comments staying in your comment archive past a certain number per month, i'll have to go back through my comments to see if it's happening to me, hadn't noticed it before...

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  • 5 votes
#4.8 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383475,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

also newly known as winnie in some circles

"some circles", is that a euphemism for "rwarner"? ;)

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  • 6 votes
#4.9 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383564,"authorDomain":"warners"}

Not me,I would NEVER, lol.

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  • 7 votes
#4.10 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":2438459,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

By the way, with regard to the "capping of comments" thing, I just talked to Lance and he was unaware that this bug hadn't been squashed yet. Is it still a problem? Shouldn't be, and certainly isn't intentional of course.

well I can tell you that the 'capping of comments' is unchanged, unfixed, unavailable.

what do you know? meets, what do you care?

It's only been 3 months since it was brought to your attention and almost 3 weeks since it was further brought to your attention.
Obviously someone else's fault, as calvin says, come-on guys, it's just a website.

best to employ the now patented, squeeky wheel gets blamed, gambit. sorry naughty naughty me.

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  • 5 votes
#4.11 - Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":2439922,"authorDomain":"mike"}

It's only been 3 months since it was brought to your attention and almost 3 weeks since it was further brought to your attention.

I count 7 days actually. Or, less than one business week. So sorry we were busy switching the entire site to a new data center and launching a feature that's been in the works for a few months. Please send us a bill for your losses.

But you know what? You're absolutely right. I really don't care. I care about fixing bugs, but I don't particularly care that you have an open complaint.

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  • 6 votes
#4.12 - Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:47 AM EDT
{"commentId":2440585,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Please send us a bill for your losses.

Dude, don't tempt him, he'll want your mailing address now!

I wouldn't worry too much about it really, personally I'd prefer great new features (and a stable comment tracker *cough cough*) to being able to see all my comments from the last 2.5 years...but that could just be me, I dunno :)....would be nice at SOME point though.

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  • 2 votes
#4.13 - Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT
{"commentId":2448460,"authorDomain":"ianfwalter"}

Geez. Relax, Mike D. It's just a website. You've been busy with...stuff. It's all good.

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  • 5 votes
#4.14 - Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
{"commentId":2448583,"authorDomain":"ianfwalter"}

Acts like this is some sort of community or something. This is a business, Mike D. Surely you don't have time to engage is personal conflict. Go...what was it? Right...go fix bugs.

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  • 5 votes
#4.15 - Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT
{"commentId":2448847,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

So, did you post your first "Mike D. can suck it" comment, sit around for 13 minutes and realize you had a more different "Mike D. can suck it" comment that you just couldn't keep to yourself, or did you simply forget that you'd already made it clear that you're not a Mike D. fan?

All this righteous indignation is really compelling. No, really ... it is.

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  • 6 votes
#4.16 - Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
{"commentId":2449130,"authorDomain":"mike"}

Are there really people out there that aren't Mike D. fans?!

Ian: You'll find that 90% of the time I decide to chime in on "controversial" threads, it's simply to correct false statements. When people make statements like "3 months... 3 weeks" thinking no one will call the BS, it's hard not to reply.

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  • 8 votes
#4.17 - Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
{"commentId":2450436,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

May 21, 2008 11:42:38 AM HST

Lance or Mark, is there a way for winsomecowboy here to go back further into his comment history, or do we chop it off at some point?

Calvin

I stand corrected, a week under 3 months.

Thank God you have no embarrassment huh?

Good luck with the snark although maybe you could start smaller, you know, work yourself up . Or maybe focus more on stuff you're good at. Public relations via brittle incorrect condescension while obviously not embarrassing for you kinda leaves you wide open for ridicule. Not a good look for someone who tries so hard to remain above the chatter's you design profit engines with.

Await your next attempt at rebuttal with keen and fearful anticipation.

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  • 7 votes
#4.18 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:26 AM EDT
{"commentId":2450481,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

or you could simply fix it I suppose. It's a bug right?

Maybe even get back to us when it's done. That would be peachy.

I would lend you gratitude you'd richly deserve. Till then.....

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  • 5 votes
#4.19 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:38 AM EDT
{"commentId":2450485,"authorDomain":"mike"}

I stand corrected, a week under 3 months.

Nope, you stand just as wrong as you usually are. I was first (and last) notified of this bug August 6th (on the Vinecast). Less than a week before your rude remark above.

I was also notified at some point that you were leaving Newsvine. Whatever happened to that?

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  • 8 votes
#4.20 - Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:39 AM EDT
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{"commentId":2383442,"authorDomain":"digits"}

GOD how I love that Cowboy.

"I'm a really well-defended softie that's what it comes down to, you know."
and
"But at the same time, I'm prepared to go kamikaze on your ass.

(Yes he is! )
Not to take away from the rest of you guys of course! And Mykola, I SWEAR to God, you sounded fine! LoL
I have to finish listening tonight. Need to step out for a while.

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  • 7 votes
Reply#5 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
{"commentId":2383589,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

He is quite the character, that is for sure :).

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  • 5 votes
#5.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":2386596,"authorDomain":"darkknightjrk"}

You know what I was saying last week about shirts with excellent phrases? This is one of them. Front side would have the quote, the second would have the Vinecast logo.

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  • 5 votes
#5.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2383842,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

I've got just under half an hour left. I love winsome bringing back the poo-poo-head line. That one had me rolling last week, and this time I was listening while at the gym and literally had to stop running and lean against the railing.

But I disagree with Ignoring for the same reason Dennis did. If a lurker catches one of them for the first time and no one refutes what they're saying, they may be swayed. They may think no one had an argument against it. As a matter of fact, a certain group's de-facto leader may attempt to bank on that very thing.

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  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384106,"authorDomain":"seward"}
Sandie SewardExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Not exactly "professional" is it, to "take a dump" whilst live online and expecting listeners to take you seriously.?

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  • 4 votes
Reply#7 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384185,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

Do you *ever* have anything positive to say, or are you just trying to stir something up? Your comment, in the guise of a question, serves no purpose other than to say the first negative thing that comes to mind, in the hopes that someone will argue the point with you.

I'll take one for the team here, and remind everyone that one of the major points of the podcast was how *easy* it is to ignore a negative comment, rather than to feed it.

It's even easier to click the little question mark and the "no value" option.

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  • 10 votes
#7.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:50 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384189,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Why would we want people to take it seriously? That's just crazy talk.

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  • 8 votes
#7.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:51 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384208,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

guess what sandi, I'm going to get paid a '@!$%#load' more than you earn for stunts just like that so your objective grasp of 'professionalism' is really your own slightly victorian problem.

Oh and welcome to the vinecast by the way, you are now going to be featured whether you like it or not.

I'm figuring not. :)

damn those goalposts, damn them to hell!

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  • 12 votes
#7.3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:53 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384256,"authorDomain":"redthumb"}

Maybe if you all did it together in studio....? Take a dump, that is.

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  • 6 votes
#7.4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 5:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385481,"authorDomain":"digits"}

I think the dump was very metaphorical; A purging if you will.
Very William Faulkner; nicely stream of conscious.

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  • 5 votes
#7.5 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 8:38 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2384375,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

?

Oh, you mean the Newsvine Poocast. Well, it sure was good to hear from everyone. Yay pottymouth!

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  • 11 votes
Reply#8 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:14 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385135,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Newsvine Poocast

One of these days the Vinecast will coincide with "5 alarm chilli" or "beef vindalo" night....and that night will be an interesting recording session.... ;)

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  • 5 votes
#8.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:52 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385611,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

I believe you mean shrimp vindaloo.

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  • 4 votes
#8.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385778,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

shrimp vindaloo.

That would do it too, don't like shrimp much though...might make that sacrifice for the delicate art of podcast defecation though ;)

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  • 5 votes
#8.3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
{"commentId":2386522,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

Yes. Shrimp are high in iodine. You know what that means.

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  • 4 votes
#8.4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 11:13 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2384725,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

Shenanigans, Brad! Your article has been telling me there's seven new comments for an hour of no comments now. I've clicked "clear" five times. Quit it! :p

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  • 3 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 6:56 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384861,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

Same here, Steve. Be my friend! :(

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  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384864,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Yeah, I've having an issue with the tracker too. I blame Mike showing up...just cause it's fun to blame those shiny green comments :P

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  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384941,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

Oh. Whoops, I meant to go accept my requests like an hour ago.... Done.

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  • 2 votes
#9.3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:27 PM EDT
{"commentId":2384971,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

Yes! Finally!

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  • 3 votes
#9.4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385279,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

Weird thing is, this is the only article that isn't clearing for me. Everything else I read is fine, but this keeps reappearing even if I manually clear count.

Well played, Brad...

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  • 7 votes
#9.5 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 8:12 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385788,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

Everything else I read is fine, but this keeps reappearing even if I manually clear count.

Well played, Brad...

Now if only I could do that on purpose...and make it show up for people that haven't been here yet, it would be awesome! :P

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  • 5 votes
#9.6 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 9:18 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2385288,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

I still think myk deploys a very deft circular argument re, community, friends and not community, bosses.

He trys to have it both ways. I don't, I say be a consistant respected boss, sacrifice the relationships, better the community, take the responsibility of being a figurehead not a 'mate'

He argues it's just a bunch of tools and latent potential. Fair enough.

I don't agree, I argue it's always been that and people make up for the potential not being realised by forming communities. Which incidentally gets sold on for millions and millions of dollars.

Myks argument boils down to those millions of dollars being spent for code. Which is patently unbelievable. If newsvine is not a community but rather a city with a number of large subdivisions that's been built up from a village. Then what do you call a community exactly?

I think Myks quite elastic about what "community" means, given his propensity to play devils advocate and argue for the status quo.

and transparency is the 2.0 bible

oh and that thing about how I was finished everywhere but the kid?

Vinecast columns don't count, this is now part of my business empire, just brads vinecast columns you won't bait me outside.

:)

If that's upsetting then you should buy a crown of thorns and externalise it. It's heathier honestly.

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  • 9 votes
Reply#10 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385629,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

I actually really do want one of those clown crowns of yours. I think they sound splendid. When I'm not wearing it, it will hang above my bed. (Where the cross is supposed to go...?)

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  • 3 votes
#10.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385674,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

your life is the cross silly.

*sigh* It's pretty obvious to me you haven't suffered enough young woman!

You go on the waiting list, it's an extra service, free, patience is a virtue.

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  • 6 votes
#10.2 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 9:04 PM EDT
{"commentId":2385710,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

Whatever. Send me a crown. I will remit payment in wampum and blood.

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  • 3 votes
#10.3 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":2386583,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

W.C., Can we give you our earnings and get the crowd and a vinecast promotion by you to be named later?

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  • 3 votes
#10.4 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 11:23 PM EDT
{"commentId":2386850,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

you can give me anything you wish.

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  • 3 votes
#10.5 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
{"commentId":2392554,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

in exchage can i borrow some of your face paint?

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    #10.6 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2394264,"authorDomain":"djehuty"}

    If it was just the code MSNBC could simply duplicate the functionality with two dozen programmers in 6 months and link it from their site to get the influx of new users.

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    • 7 votes
    #10.7 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 5:51 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2408291,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

    exactly. The 'community' is a large part of the multimillion dollar value. The reason I got off with @!$%#ting on the COH from a great height was the 'Community' to pretend otherwise is ridiculous. Why else was I fostered?

    It's not about me. I'm gone, unbruised and unrepentant.

    Dennis who was a standard bearer for the 'Community' values that pay for all the trinkets and who incidentally is married to a muslum, got @!$%#ing gangbanged by a bunch of thugs, lieing deceitful cartoon villians who not because of any nationality or racial predudice but there own transparently immoral actions deserve to be put into a room and gassed.

    And what does Calvin do? He enables them. presumably because they have as much or more worth than Dennis in a business sense.

    Old news...'Unforgiven', buy the Tshirts, watch me monatize morality. :)

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    • 7 votes
    #10.8 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 3:07 AM EDT
    Reply
    {"commentId":2385621,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

    I don't really know about most of the stuff on this cast. The question boards seem to be a very well thought out polling device. No grief with that one. Poll away.

    Just that, well, does this site need Disney?

    I have not changed my mind about how Admin decided that the best way to deal with flame is to extinguish every light. Being fair, being perceptive of motives, is a far more demanding pursuit.

    I propose that Admin choose editorial chairs. If the goal is to play with the 800 pound gorillas, let's get some of our own.

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#11 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2385975,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

    I think I'll just post articles with the comments off for now on.

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    • 4 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2385994,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

    That's one way to do it I suppose. heh. Not as fun though!

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    • 3 votes
    #12.1 - Wed Aug 6, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
    Reply
    {"commentId":2389060,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    Alright, this is silly. I've been chasing the same four comments on this column since yesterday. WTF, Brad? Did you haxxors teh Noozvien?

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#13 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 9:56 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2389385,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

    queue, theme from the "Twilight Zone."

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    • 1 vote
    #13.1 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2389462,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

    This link will fix it.

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    • 2 votes
    #13.2 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 10:37 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2391413,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    That link didn't work, but this one did!

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    • 2 votes
    #13.3 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 1:26 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2391740,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

    It works for me, get a better browser.

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    • 1 vote
    #13.4 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2391788,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    I mean: it didn't fix my problem, not: I couldn't view that page. My browser is fine. Why you gotta hate?

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    • 2 votes
    #13.5 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2391882,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

    Liar, then why did you post a music video as if that is going to fix anything?? Tell you what, if you don't like what I do,[ http://darkside.newsvine.com/_news/2008/08/05/1722263-state-of-the-vine-what-the-@!$%#-is-wrong-with-everyone#c2391435] and are to obtuse to take a joke, then put me on ignore or shut tfu

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    • 1 vote
    #13.6 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2391931,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    I thought we were sharing jokes! I guess you've never been rickrolled before, so I understand why you might be confused and angry. Feeling like you've been had can be hard. It's OK to feel hurt.

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    • 2 votes
    #13.7 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2391993,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

    I fixed that problem. If you de-track and re-track, it knocks it off. At least it did for me...

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    • 2 votes
    #13.8 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2392094,"authorDomain":"stolte-sawa"}

    Yeah, it's been working fine since I left this parent comment, actually. I'm just @!$%#in' around now. :D

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    • 2 votes
    #13.9 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2392118,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

    Yeah, it's been working fine since I left this parent comment, actually. I'm just @!$%#in' around now. :D

    Trouble-maker! ;)

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    • 2 votes
    #13.10 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
    Reply
    {"commentId":2389261,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

    Re: The Question Board. I didn't check it out till it appeared on my tracker (which I was initially kind of irritated with) but after a couple minutes of browsing the nuclear power plant thread... yeah they are pretty cool.

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#14 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 10:16 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2392436,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

    By.

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      Reply#15 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2395667,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      ?

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      • 2 votes
      #15.1 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2408189,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

      I think he likes you

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      • 6 votes
      #15.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 2:27 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2408870,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

      Real people are always trying to stop me from playing WON. (World of Newsvine.) I escaped from an organized intervention and I'm on the run now, Do you they think that my Mothers 76th birthday can stop me! HA! They are always one step behind me, as I move from hot spot to hot spot, I have to be quick.

      The Orks and Trolls have won here, not just by attrition, but because it's their game and they make their own rules. Your pissed because the you hoped it wasn't what it is. What did you expect. Truth? Fairness? I'm surprised anyone was disappointed in the first place. Gotta go, I see a black van....by.

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      • 2 votes
      #15.3 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 8:23 AM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2394065,"authorDomain":"kymlee"}

      Wow, we may have been mired in meta, but that was a very interesting conversation. I know my example was a little extreme, but when I think of people who have literally been stalked as an extension of cyber bullying, I find it hard to accept the idea of just ignoring said harassment. I've always been a little on the militant side though.

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      • 7 votes
      Reply#16 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 5:31 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2395128,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      Yeah...eventually the meta stuff might simmer down a little and the Vinecast will focus more on other stuff....but damn it, people are talking meta these days, so that's what they get! :P

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      • 4 votes
      #16.1 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 7:30 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2395237,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

      You better hope the meta doesn't simmer down, as that was by far the most intriguing aspect of the vinecast, and the portion where everyone seemed to speak with the most candor and comfort.

      ;)

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      • 4 votes
      #16.2 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2395665,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      You better hope the meta doesn't simmer down

      I think it could do to simmer down a little at least. There will ALWAYS be some sort of drama going on. But you're right, the Vinecast would be hard to pull off with much level of interest without at least a bit of meta in there somewhere :)

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      • 3 votes
      #16.3 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 8:35 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2395822,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

      It has simmered down, a lot, but at quite a high price.

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      • 2 votes
      #16.4 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2397641,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

      The thing is with the meta... If you're going for a wider audience, you're gonna want to tone it back. But as long as you're looking at releasing a "cleaner" version and an "unedited" one, my suggestion is this: Cut the extremely Vine-specific bits out of the meta for the "cleaner" one. Now, bits where winsome is bantering back and forth with Mykola about how and why he behaves as he does here, that can be interesting. That's psychology a little bit. The furor over Dennis's departure, however, has a small audience. Just my twopence.

      While I'm suggesting... could you let us know of the download total from last week when you do the Suggestions article? I'm always curious, and I think a 5-day total is a good one.

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      • 2 votes
      #16.5 - Fri Aug 8, 2008 1:28 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2398630,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      While I'm suggesting... could you let us know of the download total from last week when you do the Suggestions article? I'm always curious, and I think a 5-day total is a good one.

      Will do!

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      • 1 vote
      #16.6 - Fri Aug 8, 2008 7:49 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2408265,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

      Trust me, I'm going to bring meta into the mainstream with mid to low level production values and blistering copy.

      "Winsomes Revenge--The unforgiven"... Sounds of horse approaching,..halting.....Shotgun blast...'Voiceover' "oooh I bet that stings...Your gonna need a bandaid for that"

      "This week" [names victims, jocular disembowelment ensues, T-Shirts and in some cases underwear are promoted]

      I've just come off a 48 hour jag from Hawaii to NY, I have about 5 days of elasticity ahead. All is well. But I'd like help with the sound effects, specifically the horse approaching , halting and the shotgun blast. I'll do the rest.

      I was in Phoenix airport, I was a little aggrieved and had time on my hands, I took notes, there will be welts. Punctuation is required for these gabfests.

      Send me the sound effects I require. Um please.

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      • 5 votes
      #16.7 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 2:54 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2408275,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

      Actually, I'll start looking for those in a mo'.

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      • 1 vote
      #16.8 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 3:01 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2408284,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

      Relatedly, Brad, if you ever feel the need for some sound effects to be thrown in, drop me an e-mail and I'll see if GarageBand has 'em.

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      • 2 votes
      #16.9 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 3:05 AM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2396975,"authorDomain":"bigmomma"}

      Just listened to this one, you guys are getting better every time! Keep up the good work.

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      • 3 votes
      Reply#17 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 11:29 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2397145,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      thanks. "better every time" is a good trend hehe

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      • 1 vote
      #17.1 - Thu Aug 7, 2008 11:56 PM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2406353,"authorDomain":"amazingsdj"}

      Another fine cast on the Vinecast! I listen at work with my headphones on to keep the idiots away, but I was laughing out loud so often that I looked like the idiot.

      As far obscure Vinecast t-shirts go, I'm thinking a picture of a clown sitting on the toilet would be appropriately inappropriate.

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      • 5 votes
      Reply#18 - Fri Aug 8, 2008 8:26 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2408268,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

      Not a problem, I'll get right 'on it'.

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      • 6 votes
      #18.1 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 2:55 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2408805,"authorDomain":"warners"}

      Who will photograph you on the toilet?

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      • 3 votes
      #18.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 8:04 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2411515,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

      that's almost existential.

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      • 4 votes
      #18.3 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2408989,"authorDomain":"theoldjuggler"}

      What, you're in New York?

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      • 1 vote
      Reply#19 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 9:00 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2411532,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

      I just left you a message, yes, I'm on the 7,48 to wassaic this evening. I'm covered for pickup.

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      • 2 votes
      #19.1 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2411548,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

      Good to know you're in the neighborhood cowboy. Gonna be a good weather day in the tri State. Enjoy!

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      • 1 vote
      #19.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2411933,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      Wish I could escape for a day or 3, NY is only a couple hours away. :/

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      • 1 vote
      #19.3 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 5:42 PM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2409129,"authorDomain":"ianfwalter"}

      ROFL.

      I'll take one crowns of thorns, please. Six-strand. And check the tool shed, winsome. I bet Moon has whole buckets of rusty nails lying around.

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      • 5 votes
      Reply#20 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 9:35 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2409410,"authorDomain":"kymlee"}

      Oh you really want to revel in your suffering, don't you?

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      • 6 votes
      #20.1 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2409500,"authorDomain":"ianfwalter"}

      I really want my suffering to be as comedic as possible. As usual. That I can still count on the clown to feed my curious nihilism is a great comfort.

      ;0)

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      • 6 votes
      #20.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 10:35 AM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2412016,"authorDomain":"chill888"}

      OK this old bald guy finally listened to his first podcast.

      well done to all - and putting voices to names - fun

      Will Winsome do a different accent every week? (hahahaha)

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      • 4 votes
      Reply#21 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:05 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2412035,"authorDomain":"chill888"}

      I want a Big Mac toy attached to my penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      • 4 votes
      #21.1 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:09 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2412082,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      I want a Big Mac toy attached to my penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Uh......look for that soon(ish) at thevinecast.com.....or maybe not...who knows :P

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      • 3 votes
      #21.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:19 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2412107,"authorDomain":"chill888"}

      I want a Big Mac toy attached to my penis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      winsome owes us a video

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      • 4 votes
      #21.3 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:23 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2414766,"authorDomain":"warners"}

      I am really looking forward to documentation of this!

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      • 4 votes
      #21.4 - Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:07 AM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2412069,"authorDomain":"chill888"}

      Mykola

      while generally correct that one should ignore trolls

      it is FAR different in the JDL thing when lists are posted elsewhere, people are targeted, private lives interfered with, threads derailed, block voting encouraged/organized, etc. It's a little different ....

      the ignore button does not solve the above

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      • 6 votes
      Reply#22 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:15 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2412102,"authorDomain":"chill888"}

      ooops ignore above - not looking to debate this here .....

      enjoying the cast

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      • 3 votes
      #22.1 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:22 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2412203,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      debate it here all ya want, drama is good for business :P

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      • 1 vote
      #22.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:46 PM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2426180,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      Looks like we'll be recording this week's Vinecast a day early (in other words....tonight...in about 3 hours). If anyone wants to be on the panel, let me know...and if you have any suggestions for fun and/or interesting things you'd like to hear discussed this week, let me know those too!

      As a side note, I forgot we were doing it early until about 2 minutes ago, and so I'm off to figure out wtf to talk about and get things as organized as I can get them....fun times!

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      • 2 votes
      Reply#23 - Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2426335,"authorDomain":"Zoilus"}

      I had a dream. I made a list of topics and format for discussion, but unfortunately, it is all still in my head. and I am pressed for time. One, would be perhaps for the panel to each choose the most witty, or delusional, or something like that, post they have read. And take turns. Of couse you would e-mail these to everyone on the panle so they could all prepare and be on the same page. Members of the week to discuss, New Member of the week to discuss or segments of these formats along those lines, going commando every week works fine to a point, and is part of the charm, but you need some structure as well.

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      • 4 votes
      #23.1 - Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2426508,"authorDomain":"darkknightjrk"}

      My suggestion would be, since you had two episodes of meta-rific stuff, perhaps trying to do an all news/discussion episode--try to get people from all sides of the spectrum, find as many popular and not-so-popular articles you can find, and just shoot the @!$%# on them for an hour or so.

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      • 3 votes
      #23.2 - Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
      Reply
      {"commentId":2433283,"authorDomain":"winsomecowboy"}

      Well I've just got back online, I missed the vinecast but no matter, I will not be thwarted. I have some inserts, 2 jokes + the bumbling American sexual adventures of Derrick the kalgoorlie opal miner + "unforgiven" plus a couple of other things, AND PRODUCTS with ADDED SNARK.

      Plus getting the distribution chain together for the crowns of thorns.

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      • 7 votes
      Reply#24 - Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:03 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2433431,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      I can only assume that those products have at least 33% more snark...because for some reason I cannot explain, that is simply the snarkiness percentage. :P

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      • 5 votes
      #24.1 - Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2437381,"authorDomain":"pmags"}

      Am intrigued by the proposed increase in Snarkiness quotient. Does this involve Snarkiness worthy individuals, or just in general?

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      #24.2 - Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2438444,"authorDomain":"Brad-Leclerc"}

      Definitely gonna be some seriously snarky people involved...but also just in general. :)

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        #24.3 - Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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        Alright, alright... Will be waiting...

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          #24.4 - Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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